Farming

[xoft]

I've been fixing up farming on the server. Most of it is already somewhat functional:
- hoes create farmland out of dirt and grass
- farmland hydrates and de-hydrates based on water being nearby
- seeds can be planted on farmland
- planted seeds grow
- the growth is more or less evenly distributed, there is no extremely favored pattern anymore

What I've observed:
- growth is quite fast, much faster than in vanilla MC
- hydration doesn't influence growth rate
- farmland doesn't get trampled server-side, only client-side

What still doesn't work:
- hoes don't get damaged on use
- crops, when destroyed, don't drop anything - no wheat, no seeds.
- not sure if pumpkins and melons work - didn't test
- farmland, even if trampled, wouldn't uproot planted seeds

Any thoughts about this so far?

Especially, should I keep the extra fast growth? And how about calculating hydration by a different formula than vanilla MC? Such as max-hydration = distance from water block; then growth rate linearly proportional to hydration.

[NiLSPACE]

- crops, when destroyed, don't drop anything - no wheat, no seeds.

crops drop crops

- not sure if pumpkins and melons work - didn't test

they are growing but i don't know if they grow mellons/pumpkins

Especially, should I keep the extra fast growth? And how about calculating hydration by a different formula than vanilla MC? Such as max-hydration = distance from water block; then growth rate linearly proportional to hydration.

would be a nice idea but i think that the normal vanilla is the best for now and if its done would it be AWSOME if all that could be added to

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farmland should become dirt when you jump/walk on it

[Luksor]

I think the extra fast growth is caused by more frequently ticking the blocks. Just slow it a bit.

[xoft]

Vanilla MC ticks 48 blocks per chunk in each game tick. MCServer ticks 50 blocks in each game tick. That's not the cause for the different growth speed.
http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Tick#Block_Ticks

I think vanilla slows the growth based on hydration - crops on a 1/4 hydrated block grow 4 times as slow, etc. Would make sense.

[Luksor]

Yeah, that's probably it.

[Taugeshtu]

should I keep the extra fast growth?

How about settable growth speed?

how about calculating hydration by a different formula than vanilla MC? Such as max-hydration = distance from water block; then growth rate linearly proportional to hydration.

Just a thought:
Distance-based hydration is nice and clear for understanding, and I would greatly appretiate if flowing water would hydrate soil too (think of irrigation channels)

[xoft]

If you make anything settable, then you're most certainly going to run into a fool who sets it wrong and blames you for it Look at how Apple does things nowadays - nothing settable, and people love it. Not that I'm saying I like that philosophy

So far we've been trying to get as close to the vanilla server as possible, this would be a direct violation of that "directive".

Any kind of water is accepted for irrigation, so soil will be hydrated even by flowing water.

[Taugeshtu]

If you make anything settable, then you're most certainly going to run into a fool who sets it wrong and blames you for it

True. Look at viewdistance setting

Not that I'm trying to push on you I think, that would be nice to have...

[xoft]

Another question: if I code bonemeal to work on crops, should I make it work on other growables as well? Think sugarcane, melons, cacti, ...

[Taugeshtu]

should I make it work on other growables as well?

I can see no reason for avoiding it. In my mind, this won't force melons to produce melon instantly (just like in vanilla), but having an option to inta-grow sugarcane and cacti is nice.
Don't forget Nether Wart as well! And probably trees....